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107. Pre-Existance. Part 6

1st February 1998 by Arthur Eedle

Readers’ Comments

In writing about the subject of the Pre-existence of the Sou1, we realised that it would come as a shock to some, as abhorrent to others, but as an acceptable revelation to a few. The following letters, extracts, and phone/fax messages have been received from just after the last mailing until the end of January 1998.

“I was excited to read your articles on pre-existence because it brought back to me an experience I had over thirty years go, when coming back to the Lord after a time in the wilderness. I found myself in heaven. 1 don’t know whether it was “in the body or out of it”, to quote Paul, but it was nevertheless very real. I was surrounded by such glories that I instinctively knelt down and bowed my head. But after a few moments I had a strong urge to look up, and there, standing before me, was the Lord Jesus Himself. But it was my comment that surprised me. I can clearly remember saying, very reverently, “Oh, it’sYou!” Yes, I knew Him. I recognised him. I realised that I’d seen Him before. And now, having read virtually the same in Betty Eadie’s book, it brought it all back to me.” (Phone call from M.W. Scotland.)

“Thank you Arthur for the material on pre-existence. I have taken it all very seriously, and will look forward to anything further you find on this important issue. At present I am sharing it with a close friend, and in due course will tell you what his reactions are.” (Phone call from J.A. Staffordshire)

“I found the pre-existence set interesting reading, but I have placed them in the filing cabinet out of harm’s way. By your own admission there is very little overtly written in the Biblical account for this theory.” (Letter from P.B. Surrey)

“Thank you for your latest bundle of papers. As you can imagine I was not greatly impressed with your views on Pre-existence, in fact I find the whole idea quite grotesque. I am not however writing to tell you that, but to express my appreciation of your other papers.” (Letter from C.O. Guernsey)

“I was admiring the hills around me where I lived, and thinking they must he very old, when I heard the Spirit say, ‘My son, you’re older than those hills.'” (Quoted from J.S. in a news letter just received from Canada)

“When, on many occasions, I have contemplated the fact that our God knew us before the foundation of the world, we His chosen, who are constantly in His thoughts by day and night, I wondered, “Lord, was I there?” and then when I read of the joy of the sons of the morning, singing for joy, I imagine that I was there too, singing for joy, and then the joy of the Lord breaks forth within me – – – but what does it mean? Maybe there will be a further breakthrough, as I further reflect and contemplate your writings. Thank you dear friends for your devoted labours and research of His word.” (Letter from W.D. Hampshire)

‘Thank you very much for sending me all those papers on pre-existence. I found them absolutely fascinating, and will have to read them again to absorb the fullness of them.” (Phone call from G.S. East Yorkshire)

“I found your papers on pre-existence compelling. They certainly explained to my satisfaction all those difficult passages about predestination. (Phone call from G.S. North Lincolnshire)

“1 found your papers on pre-existence very stimulating. It was all completely new to me, but as I began to reflect on it, it fell into place. There isn’t much explicitly in the Scriptures, is there?” “No,” I answered, “but if you accept the idea, then a lot of other things fall into place more easily.” “Exactly, that’s how I found it as well. For example, when we read that Jesus is the Firstborn of all creation, doesn’t it imply that all the rest of creation was there at the beginning as well? And again, that verse in John’s letter, where he speaks about the fathers who have known Him from the beginning. What beginning is it?” “Most people refer that to the start of Jesus’ ministry, or perhaps the day of Pentecost,” I answered. “Exactly. But how do we know? There’s obviously a lot more work to be done on this subject. So thanks for the papers. They were very interesting.” (Phone call from T.H. Bedfordshire)

“Thank you for taking the time to send me some back numbers of your newsletter The Prophetic Telegraph. Unfortunately there are several doctrines which you believe which I consider to be absolutely heretical, namely that the Holy Spirit is our Mother; your belief in the pre-existence of souls; your denial of an imminent pre-tribulation rapture, followed by the literal return of the Lord with His saints; your belief that the kingdom could begin at any time; your acceptance of the testimony of new-ager Betty Eadie; your approbation of the arch-heretic of the early church, Origen, who incidentally was a Universalist; your own belief in the damnable heresy of universalism. I do not judge whether you are truly saved or not – ‘the Lordknoweth them that are His’ (2 Tim.2:19), nor do I judge your motives, nor your sincerity in the beliefs you hold; however I firmly believe you are sincerely wrong. You remind me of the Athenians of old who “spent their time in nothing else, but either to tell or to hear some new thing.” (Acts 17:21) I would commend to you the exhortation of Jeremiah the prophet, “Thus saith the Lord, stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls.” (Jer.6:16) The Canon of Holy Writ is to be our SOLE guide for faith and practice (Sola Scriptura) and God does not give fresh revelations outside Scripture to modern-day “prophets”, who are all charlatans and impostors, and completely self-deceived. (Deut. 18:20) The Holy Spirit shows Christians the right interpretation of the Bible, as they pray to God for guidance and study and meditate upon His word. (John 14:26, 16:13) I pray God will enlighten you to see the truth as it is in Jesus and that you will repent of your aberrant beliefs. Yours, with concern for your souls, (Complete letter from D.H. Scotland) P.S. With the above in mind. PLEASE REMOVE MY NAME FROM YOUR MAILING LIST.

“I must take issue with your recent issues of PT. I find it regrettable that you have given so much space and emphasis to Greek thought and apocryphal writings in considering matters of scriptural interpretation. The Word of God is unique, stands alone without external support from human sources, and is alone inspired by the Spirit of God.” (Part of a letter from R.C.A., Senior Baptist Pastor from South Carolina, U.S.A. I wrote what I thought to be a conciliatory reply to this brother, giving him some positive grounds for my belief in Universal Reconciliation, but he replied with such vicious language, that I must refrain from adding more of his words here.)

” I had given thought about pre-existence actually because of the verse that states, ‘The spirit returns to its Maker.’ I thought, how can something return unless it had been there before? So, truly I believe that spirits are with the Lord before being born into the world. Now I won’t go as far as to say they ‘select’ or ‘choose’ what purpose they will fill while here – I don’t know about this – could be right – I’m not sure about it.” (Part of a letter from Mrs H.F. Indiana, USA.)

“Your Prophetic Telegraphs have certainly been very interesting lately -especially on the subject of pre-existence which has brought some blessing. There is a lot to digest and pray through – and they are certainly very challenging.” (Part of a letter from I&S.M. Scotland.)

“Many thanks for your recent letter and the publications of the Prophetic Telegraph that I have received. I would like to further encourage you in your research. I find your articles thought provoking and challenging, which also encourages me to research many new ideas that have challenged my thinking and help me to look at new parts of God’s word in a different light, so please keep the PTs coming.” (Part of a Faxed letter from L.B. Aukland, New Zealand.)

The Lord told Jeremiah, “Before I formed thee in the belly, I knew thee.” Paul said that we had been “chosen in Him from before the foundation of the world”. Moses said of the Lord, “Thou hast been our dwelling place in all generations.” The Lord said through Isaiah, “Has it not been told you from the beginning? Have you not understood from the foundations of the earth?” These Scriptures establish that an order of beings (who would later come to be born in the flesh) existed with God in the beginning. The sons of God existed before the cornerstone of the earth was laid, when they shouted for joy and the morning stars sang. (Extract from a lengthy communication entitled “The Roll of the Scroll”, by Carl Armstrong, P.O.Box2000, Suite 16A, Alvin, Texas, 77511, sent to us quite recently, and with whom we have since corresponded.)

“Thank you for your recent P.Ts dealing with the subject of pre-existence. I found these articles both intellectually fascinating as well as a source of spiritual edification. It is always exciting when the Holy Spirit brings to light truths that have lain unrecognised for ages. I found that understanding pre-existence provided a framework or context with which I could better understand my life. Many Christians unknowingly seem to have the subconscious conception that the time, place and family we are born into is a result of natural causes. But pre-existence helps me to realise that out of all the places and times in history that God could have placed me in, He specifically chose to put me here because He knew that this is where I could best serve Him. Sometimes people may think their lives are not very purposeful compared with the lives of famous saints, yet if we see our life on earth like a specific “mission trip” that God sends us on, then the only thing that matters is to follow what He shows us to do in life, no matter how seemingly insignificant it may seem. Thank you again for the work you have done on this subject in order that those such as myself may be blessed. The facts you have uncovered fully convince me that the doctrine of pre-existence is true. (Letter from R.P. Lincolnshire)

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About Arthur Eedle

Arthur was born in 1931, and became a Christian in 1948. At London University he gained a 2nd honours degree in Physics. He went on to get a Teaching Diploma, and throughout his career life taught physics in England, Kenya, and Hong Kong. Coupled with his love of science, he was a keen student of Greek and Hebrew, and gave many lectures on Biblical subjects. Read more

The Prophetic Telegraph

1a. Why settle for half the gospel?

2nd April 1986 By Arthur Eedle

1b. The time has almost run it’s course

1st May 1986 By Arthur Eedle

1c. The Apocalypse of Abraham

1st June 1986 By Arthur Eedle

2. The New Bus

1st July 1986 By Arthur Eedle

3. Lifting the mat

1st August 1986 By Arthur Eedle

4. Sleep and Dreams

1st January 1987 By Arthur Eedle

9. The Law

1st January 1987 By Arthur Eedle

10. Atonement

2nd January 1987 By Arthur Eedle

11. Which Temple? Which City?

2nd January 1987 By Arthur Eedle

12. Which Nation?

3rd January 1987 By Arthur Eedle

5. Man’s Sensory Apparatus

1st February 1987 By Arthur Eedle

6. Gods of the market place

1st February 1987 By Arthur Eedle

7. Protocol & Etiquette

1st February 1987 By Arthur Eedle

13. The House of the Soul

1st February 1987 By Arthur Eedle

14. The Fence Makers

1st May 1987 By Arthur Eedle

15. The Fence Breakers

2nd May 1987 By Arthur Eedle

8. Worship

1st June 1987 By Arthur Eedle

20. Every Knee shall Bow

21st March 1988 By Arthur Eedle

22. Behold He Comes!

1st September 1988 By Arthur Eedle

23. Jesus the Firstborn

1st May 1989 By Arthur Eedle

24. An Ancient Scroll is Found

1st June 1989 By Arthur Eedle

26. Discipleship

1st November 1989 By Arthur Eedle

27. A God of Justice

2nd November 1989 By Arthur Eedle

28.Enmity

3rd November 1989 By Arthur Eedle

30. Noah’s Vineyard

1st October 1990 By Arthur Eedle

31. God’s Pleasure

1st December 1990 By Arthur Eedle

32. Chasing the Glory

2nd December 1990 By Arthur Eedle

33. Glory

3rd December 1990 By Arthur Eedle

34. Money Lovers

1st January 1991 By Arthur Eedle

36. On Your Toes!

1st February 1991 By Arthur Eedle

37. Flesh & Spirit

2nd February 1991 By Arthur Eedle

38. Babylon & Jerusalem

3rd February 1991 By Arthur Eedle

39. The Human Will

4th February 1991 By Arthur Eedle

40. The Mirror

1st July 1991 By Arthur Eedle

41. The Image

2nd July 1991 By Arthur Eedle

42. I Believe!

1st December 1991 By Arthur Eedle

43. Chasing Shadows

1st September 1992 By Arthur Eedle

44. National Identity

2nd September 1992 By Arthur Eedle

45. The “Full” Gospel

3rd September 1992 By Arthur Eedle

46. Confession and Torment!

1st October 1992 By Arthur Eedle

47. “Too Hard”

2nd October 1992 By Arthur Eedle

48. Freewill

1st November 1992 By Arthur Eedle

49. Vengeance

2nd November 1992 By Arthur Eedle

50. The Golden Section

1st January 1993 By Arthur Eedle

51. The Dark Day of May 1780

2nd January 1993 By Arthur Eedle

53. The Power of Thought

1st February 1993 By Arthur Eedle

16. Hidden Treasures of Genesis. Part 1

1st July 1994 By Arthur Eedle

54. A Gross Exaggeration

1st July 1994 By Arthur Eedle

17. Hidden Treasures of Genesis. Part 2.

1st August 1994 By Arthur Eedle

55. Millenial Kings and Priests

1st August 1994 By Arthur Eedle

56. Is This the Antichrist?

1st September 1994 By Arthur Eedle

57. The New Blindness

2nd September 1994 By Arthur Eedle

58. Exclusivism

3rd September 1994 By Arthur Eedle

59. Armageddon

1st October 1994 By Arthur Eedle

60. Perplexity, Confusion & Polarisation

1st November 1994 By Arthur Eedle

61. In Praise of Little Things

1st January 1995 By Arthur Eedle

62. Character Reference

2nd January 1995 By Arthur Eedle

64. The Exaltation of Christ

1st March 1995 By Arthur Eedle

65. Comparison and Contrast

1st July 1995 By Arthur Eedle

66. Adam and Eve

1st September 1995 By Arthur Eedle

67. “The Big Noise”

2nd September 1995 By Arthur Eedle

68. The Evil Eye

3rd September 1995 By Arthur Eedle

69. “Christian Theatre”

4th September 1995 By Arthur Eedle

71. In Pursuit of Excellence

1st October 1995 By Arthur Eedle

72. Capernaum, Bethsaida & Chorazin

1st November 1995 By Arthur Eedle

74. The Secrets of the Lord

1st December 1995 By Arthur Eedle

75. Caterpillar Magic

2nd December 1995 By Arthur Eedle

76. Amazing Historical Evidence

3rd December 1995 By Arthur Eedle

77. The Tin Islands

1st January 1996 By Arthur Eedle

77a. The Ancient Mining of Tin

1st January 1996 By Arthur Eedle

79. Sodom’s Great Secret

1st January 1996 By Arthur Eedle

80a. “A Precious Cornerstone”

1st February 1996 By Arthur Eedle

80b. Nature’s Hidden Model

2nd February 1996 By Arthur Eedle

80c. Further Secrets Revealed

3rd February 1996 By Arthur Eedle

81. Toils and Burdens

4th February 1996 By Arthur Eedle

82. The Sabbath Day and Sunday

5th February 1996 By Arthur Eedle

83. The “Jewish Sabbath”

1st March 1996 By Arthur Eedle

83a. About “Jots and Tittles”

2nd March 1996 By Arthur Eedle

84. About the Sabbath Day and Sunday

2nd April 1996 By Arthur Eedle

85. Contempt

1st May 1996 By Arthur Eedle

86. The Crowning Day. Part 1

1st June 1996 By Arthur Eedle

87. The Crowning Day. Part 2

2nd June 1996 By Arthur Eedle

88. The Enthronement

3rd June 1996 By Arthur Eedle

89. The Ark of the Covenant

4th June 1996 By Arthur Eedle

90. The 1979 Prophecy

5th June 1996 By Arthur Eedle

90a. The Biography of Jane Leade, 1623 – 1704

6th June 1996 By Arthur Eedle

78. The Ark of the Covenant

1st August 1996 By Arthur Eedle

91. The Ron Wyatt Tour of Britain

1st November 1996 By Arthur Eedle

93. Lucifer’s Glorious Beginning

2nd November 1996 By Arthur Eedle

94. Lucifer’s Fall from Glory

3rd November 1996 By Arthur Eedle

95. Lucifers History

4th November 1996 By Arthur Eedle

96. The Trinity

1st January 1997 By Arthur Eedle

99. “Just a Wearyin’ For You”

1st June 1997 By Arthur Eedle

100. Pre-Existance. Part 1

1st September 1997 By Arthur Eedle

101. Pre-Existance. Part 2

2nd September 1997 By Arthur Eedle

102. Pre-Existance. Part 3

3rd September 1997 By Arthur Eedle

103. Pre-Existance. Part 4.

4th September 1997 By Arthur Eedle

104. Pre-Existance. Part 5

5th September 1997 By Arthur Eedle

105. Secret Numerical Codes in Biblical Hebrew and Greek

1st October 1997 By Arthur Eedle

106. An Everlasting Problem

1st October 1997 By Arthur Eedle

107. Pre-Existance. Part 6

1st February 1998 By Arthur Eedle

108. El-Shaddai

1st March 1998 By Arthur Eedle

110. Triangle Numbers

2nd March 1998 By Arthur Eedle

111. The Secret of 153

3rd March 1998 By Arthur Eedle

112. The Secret of 276

4th March 1998 By Arthur Eedle

113. “In the Beginning”

5th March 1998 By Arthur Eedle

114. Good and Evil

1st March 1999 By Arthur Eedle

115. Quietism

2nd April 1999 By Arthur Eedle

116. Meditate on these things

3rd April 1999 By Arthur Eedle

Article Series

  • All our Yesterdays (30)
  • Before He comes (13)
  • God's Spoken Word (37)
  • Mysteries of Science & Faith (8)
  • New Series (101)
  • Newsletter (3)
  • Original Series (109)
  • Prophecy considerations (5)
  • Recognising the Hand of Judgment (33)
  • Resurrection and Change (16)
  • Seekers Corner (14)
  • Simple Statements on Serious Subjects (6)
  • The City of God (18)
  • The Millennial Octave (23)
  • The Restitution Times (22)
  • The Song of Solomon (6)
  • The Standard (19)
  • The Wayside Pulpit (107)
  • The Wayside Pulpit 2015 (96)
  • The Wellspring (101)
  • The Wellspring 2017 (55)

Index of Topics

Arthur & Rosalind Eedle's Personal Testimonies Discipleship Expository Items Good and Evil Human Pre-Existance Jane Leade. Philadelphian Numerology in the Bible Quotations from other Authors Resurrection and the Change Ron Wyatt. Archaeology Science Topics The Kingdom of God the Millennium and the Return of Christ The Sabbath Day Universal Reconcilliation

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