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56i. Resurrection and the Change – Part 9

17th May 2007 by Arthur Eedle

Part 9.  “Afterwards” (1 Thess.4:17)

The believers in Thessalonica were troubled about some of their number who had died. Paul wrote about them in his first letter, referring to the way in which they were grieved and sorrowing, and tried to cheer them up by saying that the world may very well sorrow for their dead, but not so those who had pinned their faith in the Lord Jesus, who have hope for the future. More than hope, a sure expectation. “For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so those who sleep in Jesus will God bring with Him.” (1 Thess.4:14)

He then says he had been given specific word about the Lord’s return, and the manner in which the resurrections will occur. “We who are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have slept. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven . . . with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first, afterwards we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them.” (1 Thess.4:15-17)

In this number I should like to focus our attention on the word “afterwards”. In the A.V. it is just “then”. But in the Amplified Bible the translators have taken the risk of saying “immediately afterwards.”  We shall see that there is no guarantee that this is so. The little Greek word is EPEITA, and we can gain an idea of how to translate it from amongst the few other times it occurs in the N.T.

Mark 7:5. “Then the Pharisees and Scribes asked the Lord . . .”  In this case, the questions were put immediately after certain events occurred.

1 Cor.15:6.  “Afterwards He was seen by over 500 brethren at one time.”   In this case, “afterwards” means a certain number of days, but certainly not more than 40, the interval between the resurrection and the ascension of our Lord.

Gal.1:18. “Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem.”  The time interval has now increased between two stated events.

Gal.2:1.  “Then after 14 years I went up again to Jerusalem.”  This is the longest interval amongst the references.

As a result of this examination we are left with the clear message that EPEITA can mean anything from an immediate response to almost any length of time governed by the context.  It is therefore quite beyond our knowledge to know just how long will be the interval between the resurrection of the dead saints and the change to the living ones.

But notice here that the trumpet sounds for the resurrection of the dead, and not for the change of the living saints. Hence those of us who are now living, (and if the Lord  returns in our lifetime,) we shall know nothing of this prior event, namely the resurrection of the dead saints. But Paul tells us that when the Lord returns He will come together with the raised saints. Jude tells us that this fact was known even before the Flood in Noah’s day. “And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, ‘Behold the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, to execute judgment . . .” (Jude 14-15)

Paul’s words to the Thessalonians were in respect of comforting those in bereavement, but Jude’s quotation from Enoch tells us that the purpose of the gathering of the elect, and their resurrection is related to the EARTH, not heaven, and it is the beginning of the time of judgment. Once again we remember Isaiah’s words, that “when the judgments of the Lord are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.” (Isa.26:9) Throughout all human history the Lord has been gathering His saints, who now comprise “the general assembly and church of the firstborn, . . . the spirits of just men made perfect,”  (Heb.12:23) in readiness for His Day. These “ten thousands” will all be raised from the dead before the living remnant is changed. And then, in due course, the process of judgment will begin on the earth.

No wonder the Lord said that no one would know the day nor the hour when the Lord would return. None of us has any idea when the seventh trumpet will sound, or whether perhaps it has already sounded!  If it has, then surely the interval will not be long before the Lord enacts the change to His living saints.

Only today have I been sent details of an American brother who has stuck his neck out, and stated (“by the word of the Lord”) that the Lord will return on the 7th July this year. It would seem as though the thought was triggered by the calendar, the date being 07-07-07. Also, as Saturday, it will be the 7th day of the week. But this is only one calendar in the world, and there are others, such as the ancient Hebrew calendar, which doesn’t support any such nicely rounded numbers for that day. Personally, I would have been more interested in 8th August next year  (08-08-08) as being the Dominical Number of our Lord. However, I feel sorry for all such as this man, because although his great and earnest desire is to see the Lord, yet all date-setting flies in the face of our Lord’s words, and must be treated as disobedience.

It is quite another thing altogether to share our feelings with each other, by saying that we sense the days are running out, and that the Lord is very near. My wife and I have experienced this several times over the last ten years or so, but such feelings come and go, rather like the tides with their ebb and flow. Maybe this can be understood in terms of the spiritual battles that rage in the higher dimension, and which are invisible to us, but in our spirits we are allowed to experience a little something of what is going on. More than that I think it would be unwise to say.

In the next number we shall take a look at the phrase “caught up to meet the Lord in the air.”

Filed Under: The Wellspring Tagged With: Expository Items

About Arthur Eedle

Arthur was born in 1931, and became a Christian in 1948. At London University he gained a 2nd honours degree in Physics. He went on to get a Teaching Diploma, and throughout his career life taught physics in England, Kenya, and Hong Kong. Coupled with his love of science, he was a keen student of Greek and Hebrew, and gave many lectures on Biblical subjects. Read more

The Wellspring

1. God’s Megaphone

1st September 2001 By Arthur Eedle

2. Suicide

1st October 2001 By Arthur Eedle

3. Petra

12th October 2001 By Arthur Eedle

4. Two different Gods?

20th October 2001 By Arthur Eedle

5. I AM

23rd October 2001 By Arthur Eedle

6. “Not I but Christ”

25th October 2001 By Arthur Eedle

7. How I Love Your Law!

27th October 2001 By Arthur Eedle

8. The Jewish Problem

2nd November 2001 By Arthur Eedle

9. The Evaluation of Coincidence

15th November 2001 By Arthur Eedle

10. Gracious Uncertainty

30th April 2002 By Arthur Eedle

11. Jasper & Sardius

8th May 2002 By Arthur Eedle

12. Antithesis

19th May 2002 By Arthur Eedle

12a. The Essential Role of Free Will in Universal Reconciliation

17th June 2002 By Arthur Eedle

13. The Importance of Earnest

10th August 2002 By Arthur Eedle

14. The Millennium

14th August 2002 By Arthur Eedle

15. Cancer – A Personal Testimony

17th December 2002 By Arthur Eedle

16. C.S.Lewis on the New Year

1st January 2003 By Arthur Eedle

17. Yesterday, Today & Tomorrow

5th January 2003 By Arthur Eedle

18. Repetitive Strain Injury (RSI)

12th January 2003 By Arthur Eedle

19. “The Intolerable Compliment”

12th January 2003 By Arthur Eedle

20. The Power and Practice of the Truth

22nd February 2003 By Arthur Eedle

21. The Power and Practice of the Lie

1st March 2003 By Arthur Eedle

22. The Use and Abuse of Power

8th March 2003 By Arthur Eedle

23. What on earth is happening?

29th July 2003 By Arthur Eedle

23a. A reply to “What on earth is happening?”

4th August 2003 By Arthur Eedle

24. Equality

17th August 2003 By Arthur Eedle

25. Paul to the “Ephesians”

31st August 2003 By Arthur Eedle

26. Mystery

3rd September 2003 By Arthur Eedle

27. Ephesians 1:15-23

10th September 2003 By Arthur Eedle

28. Ephesians 2:1-10

27th September 2003 By Arthur Eedle

29. Ephesians 2:11-22

6th October 2003 By Arthur Eedle

30. Cain and Abel

19th January 2004 By Arthur Eedle

31. Laying the Foundation of the Lord’s House

1st February 2004 By Arthur Eedle

32. Tomorrow’s Bread

22nd February 2004 By Arthur Eedle

33. Grace Parables

27th February 2004 By Arthur Eedle

34. The Responsibility Factor

5th March 2004 By Arthur Eedle

35a. Our Wilderness Journey. Part 1

13th March 2004 By Arthur Eedle

35b. Our Wilderness Journey. Part 2

14th March 2004 By Arthur Eedle

36. Genetic Modification in the Bible

20th March 2004 By Arthur Eedle

37. Arthur’s Testimony

28th March 2004 By Arthur Eedle

38. Identified with Christ

31st March 2004 By Arthur Eedle

39. It Would Have Been Better…

6th April 2004 By Arthur Eedle

40a. Friday’s Man was nailed upon a Cross

9th April 2004 By Arthur Eedle

40b. Sunday’s Man was nowhere to be found

11th April 2004 By Arthur Eedle

41. Jeremiah’s Cryptogram

11th May 2004 By Arthur Eedle

43. The Gospel of Humanism

14th August 2004 By Arthur Eedle

44. Cosmetic Christianity

5th September 2004 By Arthur Eedle

45. EXPERIENCE versus KNOWLEDGE

6th September 2004 By Arthur Eedle

46. “Just a wearyin’ for you”

13th September 2004 By Arthur Eedle

47. Islam by ex-Muslims

24th September 2004 By Arthur Eedle

48. Six Particular Men

9th April 2006 By Arthur Eedle

49. Ten “Everlasting” wonders in Isaiah

13th April 2006 By Arthur Eedle

50a. Missing the Mark. Part 1

18th April 2006 By Arthur Eedle

50b. Missing the Mark. Part 2

21st April 2006 By Arthur Eedle

51. The Mark of the Beast

29th April 2006 By Arthur Eedle

52. Irreducible Complexity

2nd May 2006 By Arthur Eedle

53. No historical Jesus?

4th July 2006 By Arthur Eedle

54. The Power of God’s Spoken Word

17th March 2007 By Arthur Eedle

55. God’s chosen fast

19th April 2007 By Arthur Eedle

56a. Resurrection and the Change – Part 1

1st May 2007 By Arthur Eedle

56b. Resurrection and the Change – Part 2

7th May 2007 By Arthur Eedle

56c. Resurrection and the Change – Part 3

10th May 2007 By Arthur Eedle

56d. Resurrection and the Change – Part 4

12th May 2007 By Arthur Eedle

56e. Resurrection and the Change – Part 5

13th May 2007 By Arthur Eedle

56f. Resurrection and the Change – Part 6

14th May 2007 By Arthur Eedle

56g. Resurrection and the Change – Part 7

15th May 2007 By Arthur Eedle

56h. Resurrection and the Change – Part 8

16th May 2007 By Arthur Eedle

56i. Resurrection and the Change – Part 9

17th May 2007 By Arthur Eedle

56j. Resurrection and the Change – Part 10

18th May 2007 By Arthur Eedle

56k. Resurrection and the Change – Part 11

21st May 2007 By Arthur Eedle

56l. Resurrection and the Change – Part 12

22nd May 2007 By Arthur Eedle

56m. Resurrection and the Change – Part 13

23rd May 2007 By Arthur Eedle

56n. Resurrection and the Change – Part 14

24th May 2007 By Arthur Eedle

56o. Resurrection and the Change – Part 15

25th May 2007 By Arthur Eedle

56p. Resurrection and the Change – Part 16

27th May 2007 By Arthur Eedle

57a. Before He Comes – Part 1

31st May 2007 By Arthur Eedle

57b. Before He Comes – Part 2

8th June 2007 By Arthur Eedle

57c. Before He Comes – Part 3

10th June 2007 By Arthur Eedle

57d. Before He Comes – Part 4

11th June 2007 By Arthur Eedle

57e. Before He Comes – Part 5

12th June 2007 By Arthur Eedle

57f. Before He Comes – Part 6

13th June 2007 By Arthur Eedle

57g. Before He Comes – Part 7

14th June 2007 By Arthur Eedle

57h. Before He Comes – Part 8

18th June 2007 By Arthur Eedle

57i. Before He Comes – Part 9

19th June 2007 By Arthur Eedle

57j. Before He Comes – Part 10

24th June 2007 By Arthur Eedle

57k. Before He Comes – Part 11

29th June 2007 By Arthur Eedle

57l. Before He Comes – Part 12

30th June 2007 By Arthur Eedle

57m. Before He Comes – Part 13

3rd July 2007 By Arthur Eedle

58. Free Will Versus God’s Sovereignty

28th August 2007 By Arthur Eedle

59. Rules of Engagement

10th October 2007 By Arthur Eedle

60. Cameo. Part 1

15th October 2007 By Arthur Eedle

61. Cameo. Part 2

18th October 2007 By Arthur Eedle

62. Cameo. Part 3

26th October 2007 By Arthur Eedle

63. Cameo. Part 4

28th October 2007 By Arthur Eedle

64. In His Hands

1st November 2007 By Arthur Eedle

65. The Starlings

5th November 2007 By Arthur Eedle

66. “Dead Truth”

13th November 2007 By Arthur Eedle

67. “Dead Sin”

18th November 2007 By Arthur Eedle

68. “Dead Faith” and “Dead Works”

2nd December 2007 By Arthur Eedle

69. “Dead Worship”

18th December 2007 By Arthur Eedle

70. A Pseudo-Bunyan Author

19th March 2008 By Arthur Eedle

Article Series

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  • The Standard (19)
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  • The Wellspring 2017 (55)

Index of Topics

Arthur & Rosalind Eedle's Personal Testimonies Discipleship Expository Items Good and Evil Human Pre-Existance Jane Leade. Philadelphian Numerology in the Bible Quotations from other Authors Resurrection and the Change Ron Wyatt. Archaeology Science Topics The Kingdom of God the Millennium and the Return of Christ The Sabbath Day Universal Reconcilliation

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